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		<title>By: Tom</title>
		<link>http://lindseymastis.com/2008/12/american-airlines-rip-off/comment-page-1/#comment-2964</link>
		<dc:creator>Tom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Oct 2009 14:27:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Marsha/Mrsha&#039;s comment, &quot;When you buy a ticket it is a contract. If you don’t show up for your 1st flight, the contract is broken&quot; is really dumb, from a legal perspective. 

It&#039;s true that the ticket is a contract.  The consideration paid by the passenger is money, not riding the plane.  Giving a plane ride is the consideration given by the airline.  The only way the passenger can breach the contract is by not paying for the flight.  When the passenger actually flies, that actually costs the airline money (especially when they are able to sell the empty seat to another passenger).  Something that actually costs the other party to a contract money can&#039;t be consideration.  

The real reason for the policy is 1) to extract money from people, and apparently (per Joey) 2) to combat use of promotional fares.  That&#039;s fine, but the downside of trying to use price discrimination (in the economic sense, perfectly legal and reasonable) between business and leisure travelers is it leads to bizarre and byzantine business practices that drive people to Southwest, AirTran, etc., as it did with Joey and the blog host.

I recently ran into a similar situation, but knew I would need to buy a one-way back because, if you can think of a way that a major airline will screw you, they will do it.  I chose a different carrier for the trip back.  Unfortunately, Southwest had just discontinued the route I needed, or I definitely would have used them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Marsha/Mrsha&#8217;s comment, &#8220;When you buy a ticket it is a contract. If you don’t show up for your 1st flight, the contract is broken&#8221; is really dumb, from a legal perspective. </p>
<p>It&#8217;s true that the ticket is a contract.  The consideration paid by the passenger is money, not riding the plane.  Giving a plane ride is the consideration given by the airline.  The only way the passenger can breach the contract is by not paying for the flight.  When the passenger actually flies, that actually costs the airline money (especially when they are able to sell the empty seat to another passenger).  Something that actually costs the other party to a contract money can&#8217;t be consideration.  </p>
<p>The real reason for the policy is 1) to extract money from people, and apparently (per Joey) 2) to combat use of promotional fares.  That&#8217;s fine, but the downside of trying to use price discrimination (in the economic sense, perfectly legal and reasonable) between business and leisure travelers is it leads to bizarre and byzantine business practices that drive people to Southwest, AirTran, etc., as it did with Joey and the blog host.</p>
<p>I recently ran into a similar situation, but knew I would need to buy a one-way back because, if you can think of a way that a major airline will screw you, they will do it.  I chose a different carrier for the trip back.  Unfortunately, Southwest had just discontinued the route I needed, or I definitely would have used them.</p>
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		<title>By: Richard</title>
		<link>http://lindseymastis.com/2008/12/american-airlines-rip-off/comment-page-1/#comment-2948</link>
		<dc:creator>Richard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Sep 2009 10:21:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry to hear about your ordeal with American Airlines.  I also had a nightmare with them which left me so frustrated I had to put it on the internet just because I didn&#039;t  know what else I could possibly do.  Please come post your ordeal on my website http://www.worstairlines.com which I made because of American Airlines.  Thanks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry to hear about your ordeal with American Airlines.  I also had a nightmare with them which left me so frustrated I had to put it on the internet just because I didn&#8217;t  know what else I could possibly do.  Please come post your ordeal on my website <a href="http://www.worstairlines.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.worstairlines.com</a> which I made because of American Airlines.  Thanks.</p>
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		<title>By: rose</title>
		<link>http://lindseymastis.com/2008/12/american-airlines-rip-off/comment-page-1/#comment-1252</link>
		<dc:creator>rose</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Mar 2009 12:59:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I just got the following from my travel agent.  I am not an experienced flyer.......so this is really confusing and upsetting to me. I don&#039;t know much about switching planes etc......so that is why we origionally got a non-stop flight.  And.........they changed our flights from non-stop.......but do you think we will get a discount or anything??  Nope! I will never use them again. EVER!  What rip off artists!!!!!!!!!!! (see below)

We just received notice of major changes in your flights to/from Cancun.  American canceled their non-stop flights.  They are offering flights requiring one change of planes in each direction.  You would leave O’Hare at 7:55 a.m. (instead of the original departure time of 8:15), and arrive in Cancun at 1:40 p.m. (instead of 11:45 a.m.).  Your return flight would leave at 2:40 p.m. (instead of 1:45), arriving in Chicago at 9:15 (instead of 5:25).

 

At the moment, we can get you on non-stop Mexicana flights, leaving O’Hare at 10:25 a.m., arriving in Cancun at 2:15 p.m. and returning at 2:45 p.m., getting back at 6:40, for $292.  (Neither flight availability nor air fares are guaranteed until paid in full.)  The American flights cost you $292.69 per person, so the total cost wouldn’t change significantly.   However, although it would we would have to cancel the American flights and get you a full refund of $585.38, which might take a few weeks to show up on your credit card.  Meanwhile, you would have to pay for the Mexicana flights in full.  Alternatively, you could just accept the American proposal.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just got the following from my travel agent.  I am not an experienced flyer&#8230;&#8230;.so this is really confusing and upsetting to me. I don&#8217;t know much about switching planes etc&#8230;&#8230;so that is why we origionally got a non-stop flight.  And&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;they changed our flights from non-stop&#8230;&#8230;.but do you think we will get a discount or anything??  Nope! I will never use them again. EVER!  What rip off artists!!!!!!!!!!! (see below)</p>
<p>We just received notice of major changes in your flights to/from Cancun.  American canceled their non-stop flights.  They are offering flights requiring one change of planes in each direction.  You would leave O’Hare at 7:55 a.m. (instead of the original departure time of 8:15), and arrive in Cancun at 1:40 p.m. (instead of 11:45 a.m.).  Your return flight would leave at 2:40 p.m. (instead of 1:45), arriving in Chicago at 9:15 (instead of 5:25).</p>
<p>At the moment, we can get you on non-stop Mexicana flights, leaving O’Hare at 10:25 a.m., arriving in Cancun at 2:15 p.m. and returning at 2:45 p.m., getting back at 6:40, for $292.  (Neither flight availability nor air fares are guaranteed until paid in full.)  The American flights cost you $292.69 per person, so the total cost wouldn’t change significantly.   However, although it would we would have to cancel the American flights and get you a full refund of $585.38, which might take a few weeks to show up on your credit card.  Meanwhile, you would have to pay for the Mexicana flights in full.  Alternatively, you could just accept the American proposal.</p>
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		<title>By: Web High</title>
		<link>http://lindseymastis.com/2008/12/american-airlines-rip-off/comment-page-1/#comment-1063</link>
		<dc:creator>Web High</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Feb 2009 21:41:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>American Airlines is the worst airline on the planet as you have discovered - they steal frequent flyer miles whenever they can and don&#039;t care how long you&#039;ve been a customer- I will never use them again and will let ever I know never to use them either.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>American Airlines is the worst airline on the planet as you have discovered &#8211; they steal frequent flyer miles whenever they can and don&#8217;t care how long you&#8217;ve been a customer- I will never use them again and will let ever I know never to use them either.</p>
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		<title>By: &#187; Post Topic &#187; American Airlines: Thank You!!!</title>
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		<dc:creator>&#187; Post Topic &#187; American Airlines: Thank You!!!</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Jan 2009 04:16:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] had one of those nightmare travel experiences during the holidays. Here&#8217;s my earlier blog about the disastrous event . Basically, I had to fly to St. Louis early for a family emergency involving my pregnant sister. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] had one of those nightmare travel experiences during the holidays. Here&#8217;s my earlier blog about the disastrous event . Basically, I had to fly to St. Louis early for a family emergency involving my pregnant sister. [...]</p>
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